Ein Ex-Profi über das Outing im Fußball

Braunschweig  Der Ex-Profi Marcus Urban spricht im Interview über schwule Fußballer, homophobe Fan-Gesänge und die Zeit vor seinem Coming-out.

Markus Urban im Gespräch.

Markus Urban im Gespräch.

Foto: Peter Sierigk

Vor seiner Lesung beim Braunschweiger Sommerloch-Festival nahm sich Marcus Urban Zeit für die Fragen von Sportredakteur Christian Schiebold.

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